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Diesel Vs Petrol Engines. Why are diesel engine more noisy and fuel efficient ?

 

Diesel vs Petrol, most pertinent and relevant today with ever increasing petrol prices, making Indian car buyers skew their new car buying decisions in favour of diesel cars. We would love if car experts could contribute towards this diesel Vs petrol debate.

 



I have Two Questions:

1). Why Diesel Engine Produce More Noise than petrol Engine?

2) Why Diesel Engine gives more mileage than petrol?


Diesel Vs Petrol Engines. Why are diesel engine more noisy and fuel efficient ?


Diesel engine noise is referred to as a Clatter or Knock. Higher noise levels in a diesel engine could be;

1) Combustion noise

2) Mechanical noise

Combustion Noise is due to rapid build up of pressure inside a diesel engine during combustion stroke. In a diesel engine, the fuel ignites spontaneously shortly after injection begins. During this ignition delay, the fuel is vaporizing and mixing with the air in the combustion chamber. Combustion causes a rapid heat release and a rapid rise of combustion chamber pressure. The rapid pressure rise is responsible for the "diesel knock or clatter" which is very audible.

Combustion Noise can be reduced by increasing the Cetane number of any diesel fuel. This in turn decreases the amount of knock by shortening the ignition delay time considerable. Indirect injection systems limit the pressure rise by throttling of the combustion gasses through the pre-chamber throat.  Advanced direct injection engines use pilot injection to start combustion off more slowly. Injection timing, rate of injection, compression ratio, turbo boost, etc all effect how much diesel clatter one hearsMechanical Noise could be because of pump noise, gear rattle as big diesel engines  require super strength front end drives, such gears often rattle. Loose fitting pistons which skirts against the cylinder wall also can cause diesel clatter.

Diesel engines are more fuel efficient than petrol engines because

Diesel engines work on much higher compression ratio which packs in that much more energy in the mixture resulting in much better thermodynamic efficiency. Thanks to higher compression ratio diesel engine can work on much leaner air fuel mixture thus adding to its fuel efficiency. Lower pumping loses as the throttle is always wide open.

 

WagonR Noise Problem, January 9 2017.

AGENT                                                        Good Afternoon             

 

VISITOR                                                      my car's driver side wheel is getting so much noise when i drive the car what i expect?              

 

VISITOR                                                      good afternoon              

 

AGENT                                                        what kind of noise        

 

AGENT                                                        and how old is your car               

 

VISITOR                                                      my car is 2010 model    

 

VISITOR                                                      noise like continuously. From moving to end the wheel             

 

AGENT                                                        means from starting till you stop the vehicle   

 

VISITOR                                                      yes       

 

AGENT                                                        have you by any chance changed your tyre size               

 

VISITOR                                                      no i purchase only actual tyre size with cars model       

 

AGENT                                                        which car do you have and what tyre size you have on your car               

 

AGENT                                                        if you know by any chance        

 

VISITOR                                                      WagonR 155/65/13 size               

 

AGENT                                                        and when did you change your tyre      

 

AGENT                                                        at what kms     

 

VISITOR                                                      last montyh      

 

AGENT                                                        basically i have an old Honda, its tyres were 7 years old and i had some nois eissue too              

 

VISITOR                                                      is there is noise of bearing        

 

AGENT                                                        trying to identify, basis what you seem to be telling me, that seems to be the culprit no 1, as you get the noise right from starting and not during braking    

 

AGENT                                                        do you get a 'Kut, Kut' noise while turning, i hope I am able to communicate properly 

 

VISITOR                                                      not kut kut        

 

VISITOR                                                      it like rolling    

 

AGENT                                                        you also see no black soot on the wheel rim    

 

VISITOR                                                      no any black soot on rim            

 

AGENT                                                        then there could be two possibilities, one bearing other suspension ( this seems less likely) the obvious way forward could be to get it checked    

 

AGENT                                                        when you changed the tyre was the balancing and alignment done properly   

 

VISITOR                                                      ok         

 

AGENT                                                        another thing could be that your friend to drive you car and watch the wheel movement - I am sure I am being paranoid. but maybe a loose nut could also be the reason for it though I doubt it very much           

 

AGENT                                                        you did not answer my balancing alignment question 

 

VISITOR                                                      Sunday i did alignment and balancing  

 

VISITOR                                                      and noise still continue              

 

AGENT                                                        seems to covered obvious bases, just get it checked    

 

VISITOR                                                      seems you said about loose nut i doubt must  

 

VISITOR                                                      firstly i check about nut              

 

AGENT                                                        no harm in doing that  

 

VISITOR                                                      anyway thank for the advice    

 

VISITOR                                                      ok         

 

AGENT                                                        pleasure             

Petrol vs Diesel, April 27 2016.

VISITOR                                                      Sir I’m confused between petrol and Diesel     

 

VISITOR                                                      My running is 5000 km per year               

 

AGENT                                                        Obviously only petrol  

 

VISITOR                                                      Ok...    

 

VISITOR                                                      But resale value of petrol is far less than Diesel              

 

VISITOR                                                      So         

 

AGENT                                                        Going forward its diesel which is not going to be so much in demand  

 

AGENT                                                        One can expect diesel prices to grow faster than petrol even in India  

 

AGENT                                                        In any case even today there are more discounts on diesel than petrol cars      

 

VISITOR                                                      Yae thats right 

 

AGENT                                                        IN any case because you are going to be driving so less the higher diesel entry cost does not justify its purchase for you               

 

VISITOR                                                      Is there any difference between mileage of hatch and sedan in petrol

 

AGENT                                                        mileage difference is basically dependent on engine size and yes car size also affects the mileage                                                                     

 

AGENT                                                        so would be the weight of the car etc  

 

VISITOR                                                      All the petrol cars are with 1.2 ltr engine            

 

VISITOR                                                      I have seen grand i10 swift elitei20 Chevrolet sail and Ford Figo             

 

VISITOR                                                      And all sedan version of these cars       

 

VISITOR                                                      The rest drive sail and i found engine very smooth       

 

AGENT                                                        Among your list my priority will be elite i20, Swift, Grand i10 only. Other cars will really hit you on resale and service                                

 

VISITOR                                                      Ok         


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